Maximize without covering task bars and tools.

OscarMayer

When I maximize an image in CS4 the image goes to full screen and covers the tool, task bars, and everything else. Is there a way to keep it from doing that? It did not do that on my CS2.

Thanks.

Oscar.

vampirelover · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject:

That's strange, Oscar. I've had Cs4 since it came out and mine doesn't do that. Forgive me for asking the obvious, but presumably you have tried pressing the TAB key? That always brings the panels back for me, along with the toolbox and taskbars. If yours doesn't, I should reinstall if I were you. Sorry I can't be more help.

OscarMayer · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the suggestion and I tried it. Tabs does toggle the pallets or panels but the task bar at the top and the tool bar at the upper left are still covered. When I maximize a photo the only thing that is not covered is the pallets.

Un-install and re-install? Anyone else have any suggestions?

Oscar.

vampirelover · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:59 pm Post subject:

Actually, I've misled you. I've just compared CS4 with CS3 and there is no maximised screen mode with CS4( not in the old sense). I recall reading this when I first got it. The three options now available don't allow for a maximised screen with taskbar and toolkit. All you get for your money is three(not four) screen modes. The nearest is FullScreen Mode with Menu Bar. And they call it an upgrade.....

OscarMayer · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject:

Bummer. I moved from CS2 to CS4 to be able to open RAW shot with my new EOS 50D. Maximizing and still being able to use the tools and task bars is something I am going to miss. What bugs me is that after I crop then I just see a small part of the image. I click on the hand tool and then click on fill screen, or double click the hand, and it does bring up a the whole image but it is still not what I would call at maximum.

Thanks.

Oscar

vampirelover · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:16 pm Post subject:

Oscar, forgive me for asking another stupid question, but you are aware, I suppose, that you can enlarge the image to any size by pressing the plus key whilst holding down the control key? Or by using the scroll wheel on your mouse? The only difference in using the Full screen with Menu Bar rather than the old maximize mode is that you don't have the border around the image with the various bits of information on, information which you can display in the info panel anyway. Or am I misunderstanding your difficulty?

OscarMayer · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject:

Don't be afraid of asking what you think might be a stupid question. I am starting to feel stupid myself. I am just very glad that you are trying to help me.

OK, first a bit about me. I "started" out with Photoshop 7 just over a year ago. This past September I went to CS2. Now I am on CS4.

With CS2 I could open an image and crop it. When I did the image boarder stays the same size but the cropped image expands to fill the image box. Then if I wanted to maximize the image I could. The boarder would expand but the image stayed the same size. The boarder extended over to the right and under the pallets and over to the tool bar. It also exted over to the task and tool bars but it did not cover them. It extended to them and stopped. The cropped image inside this large boarder was small at this point. The boarder extended but the image size stayed the same.

Then I would hold down on the Alt key and turn the scroll wheel to enlarge or reduce the image inside the maximized boarder.

I have Windows Vista on a new HP.

With CS4 I open the image using a floating box. I don't like the tabs. The image is inside a boarder that is about 4" X 6"X on my 22" screen. When I crop the image the image shrinks AND the boarder around it shrinks.

In CS4 I can hold down the Alt key and turn the scroll wheel and the image will increase or decrease INSIDE the boarder which was reduced in size by the crop. If I click on the box on the upper right to maximize the image the expanding image boarder will cover the task and tool bars. The only thing I can see is the pallets or panels to the right.

What I am trying to do is to expand or maximize the boarder without covering the task and tool bars, and then increase the image size by holding down on the Alt key and turning the mouse scroll wheel.

Am I missing something so basic that I am just looking past it??

Oscar.

vampirelover · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:35 am Post subject:

I think I've got it sorted, but it's not good news. It's ages since I used CS2 and I've uninstalled it, but I do still have CS3 installed though I only use CS4 now.. It turns out that Adobe altered the screen modes in CS3, and again in CS4...so it gets a bit confusing. To complicate things further it's not just as if there used to be four modes and now there are three; they have altered one of the modes and yet kept the same name.

You said, "It also extended over to the task and tool bars but it did not cover them. It extended to them and stopped. " That is what you cannot now do in CS4, at least not by simply choosing a screen mode. Essentially you have a choice between having a border in Standard Screen Mode(obtained by pulling it off the tab) or going into Full Screen Mode with Menu Bar, which doesn't give you the border. You can, of course, increase the size of the border by dragging on the corner with your mouse.Then you can use the scroll wheel to alter the size of the image without affecting the border, which is what you said you want to do, only of course it is a little more time-consuming.
By the way, if you go to edit>preferences>general and untick "use shift key for tool switch" and tick "zoom resizes windows " and "zoom with scroll wheel" you should be able to use your scroll wheel without pressing any key.
I don't know why Adobe don't use "legacy" settings for stuff like this ( they do for the useless old brightness controls) so people who are used to, and prefer, the old controls can use them.
One thing you might consider if you can afford it( and you haven't already got one ): get a widescreen monitor.I have a 26" widescreen and it fits a huge landscape image on it with plenty of room for the panels at each side.

OscarMayer · Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:07 am Post subject:

SUCCESS, I have found a way to do it. You CAN maximize without covering the task and tool bars. Try this, it works for me.

Open the image and then put your curser on the image boarder at the top and left click and hold. This is the common way to move an image on your work space. Slowly drag the image to the top and try to butt it up against the task bar. When you do butt it up or just before the image touches the task bar the image will gray out. When it does release it and the image will maximize and the task and tool bars are not covered.

The minimize/close icons are not shown but when you are done with the image you can right click for a minimize option, at least with the hand tool selected, or just grab the top boarder again and drag it away from the task bar. When you have it away just release it and the image will minimize.

Give it a try and let me know what you think.

Oscar.

vampirelover · Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:20 am Post subject:

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